Interesting. It's funny how what some of us have been talking about for ages is finally coming to a head because of JB's comments. I already mentioned that I disliked all his forced kisses and how Joo Won tries to force himself on Ra Im and this stalk-to-love plot.
A criticism of the drama isn't a criticism of the actors. And surely, positive comments aren't the only welcome ones, right? Anyway, I probably won't be able to watch the episodes till the end of this week but it's all so interesting.
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I dropped this after the "forced kiss" epi....The writer is intentionally sending mixed messages teetering between two classes--modern and olden. This is par for the course I guess.
Meaning, I don't mind, but don't find anything romantic about her style of writing the characters this way. JW is insolent (I started to find his characterization insulting after a while); and RI is spineless when it comes to her life (anyone else's she is fearless, her own...she is made to appear incapable and voiceless or her voice is not heard by her lover.) The writer keeps on insisting that JW's behavior is tolerable and his mannerisms befit his upbringing.
Well, he is a grown man and only force does allow him to impose his will on others. The point that irritates me is that she makes it look like he is being courageous (while in RI's body). He is hiding behind her facade when making bold statements to others. Why not ask JS as "a man" to leave RI alone...no, he does this while perpetrating a fraud. And not to be overlooked, his constant taunt of "I am not someone to be ignored" can be taken as a threat especially when wealth and class were thrown into the mix to keep the little ppl in line.
RI has been flattened and weakened but it is all for her good because she really does care for the guy so its okay mommy dearest. This is so high school romance with 30-year olds. Gahh!
I agree with you. The characters make it hard for me to root for them. I don't find Joo Won charming and Ra Im is a disappointment. I think that actors' chemistry is the main reason this drama is a success. If this was being acted by the cast of "Oh Daddy's Girl", a lot of people praising it will find a lot of fault in it.
Having said that, I think it is getting better. Now that we are on the second half, I think the writer is finally ready to write in the plot.
I forgot to pen my name earlier.
Going forward, I'm just reading recaps, etc. and not watching this drama. The writer went a bit too far for my taste with the characterizations.
To make up for what she has done, I expect her to go the weepy sappy route to keep the audiences vested in her dribble. She has cornered herself and the only way out is cliches.
As for the so-called romantic daliances she presenting to the audiences about RI's character, it is better to reach for the fruit you want, vs the ones that fall at your feet. RI's voice should have been expressed and heard more in this drama way earlier and not silenced showing how childish she was by hitting him and fighting or whatnot.
Now that the boy has stalked his way into her memories, it's all "Green Light" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-AbEO6J8s0&feature=related.
msk
Hey, msk, I was wondering who that was.
I really don't have much to add to your comment because it's funny that Ra Im is supposed to be a strong, independent woman and it's the exact opposite. The guy stalked and harassed her, forced his kisses on her and now she's in love? LOL. Well, I read loads of Mills and Boons in my teens and they had similar lead males so there must be some kind of appeal to this kind of stupid story. I guess I was just living in a fantasy land where we'd moved on from this.
Yes, I expect some melodrama coming now. Since the couple is together, a lot of sadness must be coming our way.
agreed. this kind of misogyny is passable in teen dramas because it's all silly fun but with two "mature" adults, it's ridiculous and distasteful
If you recall from Coffee House days, I mentioned not ever reading one romance novel.
Is it any wonder why I find myself looking at certain scenes sideways because it does not compute...as if that would help me understand. lol
msk
lol, yes msk, I haven't seen Gone With The Wind in a long time but I remember it being racist and sexist and I think Rhett rapes Scarlett but she ends up liking it. That's the same thing that's happening in Secret Garden. He forces her and she ends up liking it. Some will say that if he didn't force her, they wouldn't be a couple and that would be a travesty since they have to be a couple, right? It's a very common theme in romance novels, especially historical novels and those of the last century. That's why when I first started commenting on the drama, I said it reminded me of old novels. But people love Gone With The Wind so clearly, this kind creepy romance still has its appeal.
lol, you certainly didn't miss out on romance novels growing up. So many of them were about a playboy and a virgin which is something I absolutely hate these days.
Ohhhh, Gone With the Wind was telling of the brutality and inhumanity of the times... and Scarlett was one of the brutal ones if I remember correctly while Rhett was portrayed as a southern gentelman up until he "took" her that is. I think the after scene was telling in that she probably said 'yes' to his forcefulness and hating herself and him afterwards..... Yet, during that time certain class of people were seen as property and therefore, were for the taking or disposing of at will....
While here in SG, RI keeps insisting (on deaf ears--mine incl) that "she is not that kind of girl"...pffttt. What I want to know is, what kind of 21st C girl is she to allow herself to be dragged around, stalked, and her voice ignored?
msk
P.S. I do not care to know the answer my question.
I found the clip from Gone With The Wind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M25sE8Ccapc&feature=related
It kind of reminds me of the forced kiss scene with him kissing her because she mentioned her director.
Of course the situations/times are different which is why I say SG feels like a story from a different era but both of them romanticize the same thing. At the end, Scarlett looks relaxed and happy so apparently, it was in her best interest for Rhett to take her like that. "It's all part of the romance."
Her no became a yes so it's okay.
But as I said, I really don't remember much from GWTW so I can't tell if they were screwed up characters and what not.
Hah, Scarlett was a bitch who wanted her dear cousin's husband who only saw her as a kid if memory serves me correctly.
If romance novels and Kdramas rom-coms use this movie as their blueprint, oy vey!
Even in current US dramas, the two couples while nearly tearing each other clothes off with their looks and hands will eventually speak to get the go ahead before sex.
I think they are showing our 30 year old here as virginal and pure as the driven snow, which she may be....idk. If that were the case, I think she would guard her viginity more. Unlike Scarlett in the movie who was willing to give it up to her cousin's fiance just to have him 1st and be the 1st to lose her viginity as if it were a competition....That movie was ahead of its time in a lot of ways....
I love old movies....some of the characters from the 20s-40s especially were ahead of the times for their day. The characters were gripping and the stories provocative.
But there is a difference betw watching a 1.5 to 3 hour movie vs a drama series....That takes devotion. I don't have it for this one as the writer did not really grip me.
msk
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